I want to call your attention to a comment that came in a few days ago on an old post about boys peeing in their underwear (READ POST).  The information this gentleman shares is too valuable to remain buried in an old article many will never see.

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Bert’s comment…

The pee dribbling has something to to with Asian boys having a higher oestrogen level and a lower testosterone production compared to their Caucasian counterparts.
Maybe a genetic thing, but also generated by a higher intake of soy and/or green tea.

On top of that many gay boys experiment at young age (15 up) with quiet easy accessible hormone medicine, because outside of the big cities the phenomenon “gay” does not exist, or is not readily accepted, while ladyboys strangely enough are.(they live a “normal” lady life outside of the sextrady, working in supermarkets (i know of at least 5 all working in the same provincial-town-Lotus, “married” without children) and the likes. You don’t even notice until your local boyfriend points them out. When they finally arrive in Bangkok, they see they don’t really have to change their sex and stop taking the pills.

The high levels of oestrogen and lowered production of testosterone turns them into small boys with hairless bodies, narrow shoulders, small muscles, big hair and expanded prostate glands putting pressure on their urethras, causing leakage after peeing.

You should check your more hairy and butch “i am man man” gay Asian friends’ briefs for yellow spots. I bet you don’t find any.

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I must admit some skepticism on my part when first reading his explanation, but apparently Bert is bang on with this one.

Last night one of the boys came by the room to visit and surf the Internet.  So I decided to ask him about this.  Before I could complete the question the boy abruptly interrupted, in a firm but questioning tone, “How you know about this!?”  He is aware of my blog, so I explained that a farang had made a comment about it.  Then I told him the part about this is why boys pee in their underwear.

I waited a couple of minutes before asking the boy if he had taken these pills at a younger age.  Without hesitation he said yes, but immediately added, in a confident tone, he does not pee in his underwear.  Funny, considering this boy is one of those that inspired the original post.  So I reminded him I’ve washed his underwear before, at which point he just smiled and went back to surfing the Net.

My BF is from Korat, the third largest city in Thailand.  Obviously there are plenty of gays living there, so I asked him what the gay bar scene was like.  He said they do not have any gay clubs in Korat.  He told me there was a gay club, but it closed after a few months, because no one would go there.  He said it wasn’t because people where afraid of being exposed.  All Thais can easily spot who is gay anyway, says he.

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So I asked how gays in Korat meet and socialize with each other.  He explained they go to mixed clubs, and it’s not a problem, because any Thai can spot who is gay and who is man (straight or passing for straight).  Then he said the reason no one liked the gay club (K69) was only the guys that were obviously gay would go there.  He explained most of these guys were interested in hooking up with a man (passing for straight), and those that are man will not go to a gay club.

I think this is an excellent example of how sexuality works in Thailand.  Those that have feminine mannerisms are gay.  The guys that can pass for straight go out of their way to maintain that public image.  People are not oblivious to what’s really going on.  It’s just that most assume the straight acting boys will eventually go on to marry and have children, which most apparently do.  As long as the boy presents himself as straight that’s what’s important.  What he does behind closed doors is not.

In the past I’ve suggested the boys interpret western sexual preference labels differently.  For example a Queen can mean bottom, or one with feminine mannerisms, regardless of preference for top or bottom. During my last stay in Pattaya I encountered another example of this.

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I was in Happy Bar, one of my favorites, and ran into an old friend I hadn’t seen in over a year.  The shorts boys wore in this bar used to be different colors so customers could identify who was a top, bottom, or versatile.  The boys now wear shorts made to look like those worn by kick boxers, and they are all done in red, white and blue.  Some have a red waist band, while others have blue or white.  I asked the boy if different colored waist bands were a carry over from the old color code system, and he said no.

So for fun, I decided to test my observation skills by guessing what each boy’s preference was.  After all, who needs color codes to identify the obvious…right?  I gestured toward each, and said what I thought he was - king, king, queen, king, and so on.  I was accurate with all but three of the boys.  However, it wasn’t a matter of getting king and queen mixed up.  Instead, I was told three were gay. So this boy’s interpretation of western labels was king (top), queen (bottom) and gay (versatile).

I’m accustomed to being told “He do everything/anything”, or “He king and queen” to describe versatile.  Using gay for this was a first, and a good example of how varied Thai interpretations of western labels are.